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Personal Independence Payments Draft Regulations Options
RichC
#1 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 11:50:00 AM Quote
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Draft regulations and consultation request for the Personal Independence Payment.

Due to be in force in 2013

Outline.

Points based (similar to ESA ) for two rates, Daily Living Component and Mobility . Awards will be based on a descriptor based assessment and the Care component change to two awards :
“limited ability to carry out daily living activities” or “severely limited ability to carry out daily living activities" ... and a claimant will be awarded either a "Standard " or Enhanced " rate of a Daily Living Component.

The Mobility Component will change to :
“limited ability to carry out mobility activities” or “severely limited ability to carry out mobility activities” and the award will be.. standard or enhanced rate of the Mobility component.

The descriptors for the awards can be seen at the bottom of the draft regulations in the PDF marked "Social Security (Personal Independence Payment) (Assessment) draft regulations" (Page 9 to 14).
The number of points for each and the number of total points required for each rate has not been decided yet.

Assesment
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The new assessment will include advice provided by a trained independent assessor who will collect evidence from a wide range of sources.
In many cases this will involve a face-to-face consultation with a trained independent assessor, but in some other cases a paper-based assessment may be more suitable.
The key is a review process that is applied sensitively and appropriately, which disabled people and their representatives have helped us to design to get it right.



Fluctuating conditions

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Taking a view of ability over a longer period of time helps to iron out fluctuations and presents a more coherent picture of disabling effects.
Therefore, unless otherwise stated, the descriptor choice should be based on consideration of a 12 month period.
If the activity cannot be completed in the way described for more than 6 months, aggregated over the 12 month period, then it should be viewed as not being completed at all and the appropriate descriptor applied.



Other matters include being able to get PIP past 65, pass-porting for carers allowance , motability etc. Requirement to have had those needs for 6 months prior to claim rather than 3 months .Limited number of indefinite awards . awards between 2 years and 10 years dependant on likelihood of improvement or condition deteriorating.PIP for working age only but will continue past retirement age.



Rich :(

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jenni_b
#2 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 12:53:50 PM Quote
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thanks for the heads up there Rich.

I find that bit on the conditions that change and go up and down pretty confusing....

is it just me?
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Julia17
#3 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 12:55:19 PM Quote
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Thanks Rich for this post, extremely informative, I will save all this info. as it may well be very helpful at a later date.

Julia Smile
RichC
#4 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 2:53:21 PM Quote
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Bear in mind Jenni this was not a consideration in DLA , so it is a good move.

Looks like if you fit one of the descriptors for more than half of the time over a year(or any time period) then you will fit that descriptor and hence get points towards the overall score.
It is up for consultation , so groups will be submitting evidence to hopefully have input into the final legislation.

Long term fluctuating conditions are being looked at in the review of ESA for this October as are Real world situations.

Rich :)

"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
jenni_b
#5 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2011 2:57:07 PM Quote
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I do think that this could help a lot of people.

I did diaries for when I did my DLA appeal and that really helped- writing down the levels of pain for each activity and a "fatigue rating" for me was 10= bed rest and sleeping 1= brief sit down.

Im glad at least there seems to be an attempt to do a scheme to consult disabled people.

Jenni x
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RichC
#6 Posted : Sunday, June 19, 2011 6:04:36 AM Quote
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Update .... The NRAS are part of the Disability Benefits Consortium , and they have responded to the Consultation ..

see Here on this site for further information.

Rich
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
benmaise
#7 Posted : Monday, August 01, 2011 8:27:37 PM Quote
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Just wondered if Rich knows if i will get PIP when the changes come about. I am retired and started getting DLA before i was sixty. I am worried in case it stops.
Kathleen Mc.
RichC
#8 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:56:22 AM Quote
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Hi Kathleen,
As with a lot of the welfare reform going through Parliament at the moment , it is still being worked out .

According to the DWP response in May 2011 ..It should work like DLA , (ie you can still get it past 65 (or whatever the retirement age is at the time), but will not be able to make a new claim)

However it is unsure as to whether under 16's or over 65's will be changed to the PIP when it starts in 2013/2014.

Full DWP response HERE with regard Over 65's

Rich

"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
benmaise
#9 Posted : Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:13:49 PM Quote
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Thanks Rich. You are very helpful ! Kathleen Mc.Smile
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